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	<title>Comments on: TWiG &#8211; Geek Roundtable &#8211; 013 &#8211; Transformers:  Revenge of the Fallen</title>
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		<title>By: Birdman</title>
		<link>http://thisweekingeek.net/roundtables/twig-transfomers-revenge-of-the-fallen/comment-page-1#comment-697</link>
		<dc:creator>Birdman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the Feedback
Well I&#039;m 27 and grew up with G1 in 84 and on but not as much I would have liked.</description>
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Well I&#8217;m 27 and grew up with G1 in 84 and on but not as much I would have liked.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://thisweekingeek.net/roundtables/twig-transfomers-revenge-of-the-fallen/comment-page-1#comment-687</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys,

I listened to the episode in which you interviewed Stan Bush and now I just listened to this episode (your Revenge of the Fallen review).  I give you credit for taking a serious, in-depth approach to analyzing the movie (character development, plot development, etc.), but to me, there&#039;s just no point. The movie is an incomprehensible joke.  Good job though, given what you had to work with.

If you&#039;re interested in a different perspective, my friend Greg and I just reviewed Revenge of the Fallen in our podcast The Paunch Stevenson Show:

http://paunchstevenson.com/2009/06/29/episode-135/

We also reviewed Michael Bay&#039;s first Transformers movie in 2007:

http://paunchstevenson.com/2007/07/09/episode-76/

From what I can tell, I think Greg and I are a few years older than you and the G1 Transformers were a huge part of our childhoods.  To us, Bay&#039;s movies are idiotic disasters and we give good reasons why in our two reviews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys,</p>
<p>I listened to the episode in which you interviewed Stan Bush and now I just listened to this episode (your Revenge of the Fallen review).  I give you credit for taking a serious, in-depth approach to analyzing the movie (character development, plot development, etc.), but to me, there&#8217;s just no point. The movie is an incomprehensible joke.  Good job though, given what you had to work with.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested in a different perspective, my friend Greg and I just reviewed Revenge of the Fallen in our podcast The Paunch Stevenson Show:</p>
<p><a href="http://paunchstevenson.com/2009/06/29/episode-135/" rel="nofollow">http://paunchstevenson.com/2009/06/29/episode-135/</a></p>
<p>We also reviewed Michael Bay&#8217;s first Transformers movie in 2007:</p>
<p><a href="http://paunchstevenson.com/2007/07/09/episode-76/" rel="nofollow">http://paunchstevenson.com/2007/07/09/episode-76/</a></p>
<p>From what I can tell, I think Greg and I are a few years older than you and the G1 Transformers were a huge part of our childhoods.  To us, Bay&#8217;s movies are idiotic disasters and we give good reasons why in our two reviews.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierce Derks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierce Derks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;Punk&#039; here.. 

Transformers 2 I adore and loathe at the same time. I had the opportunity to see it in imax last night and while there were a few awe inspiring moments for the most part the imax didn&#039;t immerse you into the experience, it merely added more chaos to Bay&#039;s already hectic action sequences. 

If you thought the aspect ratios switching around in The Dark Knight was annoying, with this there are imax shots that appear for roughly one second then switch back. One shot had my very confused as why the f*** it was even shot in imax ( a soldier on a boat for one second..why?). 

If you have already seen TF 2 in theaters and are curious to the Imax experience, don&#039;t bother. 

As for what i love and hate about the movie itself... 

1. The humor...there are some moments of fun goofy screwball comedy reminiscent of the first film that work perfectly to lighten the tension and amuse the kids. 

But then the film is plagued, and i do mean plagued with over the top raunchy humor that seems like it was ripped straight out of an Austin Powers film. Anyone who knows me knows I&#039;m not one to shun away at something and go &#039;oh my that&#039;s too offensive for me&#039; But did we really need the dogs humping, robots calling each other pussies, an immigrant with over the top hideous teeth, John Turturro&#039;s balls and Devastators too? 

These moments didn&#039;t bring you into the picture, it was as if Bay zipped down his pants and decided to slap you with a certain piece of genitalia every time you were getting caught up with the characters and plot. 

2.Mudflap and Skids...

Why, why god why. It&#039;s as if Bay studied what everyone hated about TF 1 and film in general and decided to throw in two ghetto hillbilly &#039;bust a cap in yo ass&#039; buck toothed robots that dont know how to read and spend most of their time cursing. 

This is the biggest side kick mistake since Jar Jar Binks..Jar Jar at least added something to the plot. His character had a purpose, no matter how much you hated the Gungan bastard he still was needed to progress the story forward.  

What purpose do Mudflap and Skids serve to the story? Bumblee gets pissed off at them for being so f***ing annoying and throws them against a wall revealing something Sam has been looking for...That&#039;s it. Seriously that&#039;s it. 

They attack Devastaor..but do they bring him down? NO! It looks like they go in for a head shot and then next scene hes climbing the ol&#039; pyramid like nothing happened. 

Mudflap and Skids could have easily been replaced with any one of the characters we actually gave a shit about from the first film and would have prove as a much better sidekick. 


3. This is a kid&#039;s movie?!?! 

Yes, its PG-13, parents are supposed to know there may be &#039;some&#039; inappropriate content. But lets face it, this film is marketed towards kids, BK toys, walmart and Toys R Us are stacked to the ceiling with transformers stuff aimed at lil&#039; Johnny whose 9. TF 1 was a kids movie...this is not and i am surprised it got away with being called one. 

4. The plot...i forgive it, despite how little to no sense it makes. It&#039;s supposed to be a mind numbing popcorn action flick. It had the potential to be so much more though. 

The moments i loved in this film though were the ones with Prime, Bumblebee, Megaton, Starscream, seeing the Army guys again, some of the comedy between Shia and Miss Fox...those were genuine and they left me not feeling cheated out of the movie i wanted to see. 

BOTTOM LINE 

Bay has always been a kid at heart, but it seems with TF 2 he&#039;s now in that asshole state of puberty that everyone hates, the 13-16 year old douchebags that society has wanted to destroy for eons. 

It&#039;s clearly evident too when you&#039;re in the theater and everyone you see around you laughing at the parts where anyone over 20 shakes their head in shame are just that...13-16 year old douchebags who wont shut up throughout the entire movie going on about how hot Megan Fox is. 

TF 2 is truly marketed towards them, not to adults, not to kids, but to the 13-16 range. 

It&#039;s worth seeing for those few moments of Prime kicking ass...but if you wanna sneak into the theater lets just say i wont alert security. 

Pierce &#039;The Punk&#039; Derks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;Punk&#8217; here.. </p>
<p>Transformers 2 I adore and loathe at the same time. I had the opportunity to see it in imax last night and while there were a few awe inspiring moments for the most part the imax didn&#8217;t immerse you into the experience, it merely added more chaos to Bay&#8217;s already hectic action sequences. </p>
<p>If you thought the aspect ratios switching around in The Dark Knight was annoying, with this there are imax shots that appear for roughly one second then switch back. One shot had my very confused as why the f*** it was even shot in imax ( a soldier on a boat for one second..why?). </p>
<p>If you have already seen TF 2 in theaters and are curious to the Imax experience, don&#8217;t bother. </p>
<p>As for what i love and hate about the movie itself&#8230; </p>
<p>1. The humor&#8230;there are some moments of fun goofy screwball comedy reminiscent of the first film that work perfectly to lighten the tension and amuse the kids. </p>
<p>But then the film is plagued, and i do mean plagued with over the top raunchy humor that seems like it was ripped straight out of an Austin Powers film. Anyone who knows me knows I&#8217;m not one to shun away at something and go &#8216;oh my that&#8217;s too offensive for me&#8217; But did we really need the dogs humping, robots calling each other pussies, an immigrant with over the top hideous teeth, John Turturro&#8217;s balls and Devastators too? </p>
<p>These moments didn&#8217;t bring you into the picture, it was as if Bay zipped down his pants and decided to slap you with a certain piece of genitalia every time you were getting caught up with the characters and plot. </p>
<p>2.Mudflap and Skids&#8230;</p>
<p>Why, why god why. It&#8217;s as if Bay studied what everyone hated about TF 1 and film in general and decided to throw in two ghetto hillbilly &#8216;bust a cap in yo ass&#8217; buck toothed robots that dont know how to read and spend most of their time cursing. </p>
<p>This is the biggest side kick mistake since Jar Jar Binks..Jar Jar at least added something to the plot. His character had a purpose, no matter how much you hated the Gungan bastard he still was needed to progress the story forward.  </p>
<p>What purpose do Mudflap and Skids serve to the story? Bumblee gets pissed off at them for being so f***ing annoying and throws them against a wall revealing something Sam has been looking for&#8230;That&#8217;s it. Seriously that&#8217;s it. </p>
<p>They attack Devastaor..but do they bring him down? NO! It looks like they go in for a head shot and then next scene hes climbing the ol&#8217; pyramid like nothing happened. </p>
<p>Mudflap and Skids could have easily been replaced with any one of the characters we actually gave a shit about from the first film and would have prove as a much better sidekick. </p>
<p>3. This is a kid&#8217;s movie?!?! </p>
<p>Yes, its PG-13, parents are supposed to know there may be &#8216;some&#8217; inappropriate content. But lets face it, this film is marketed towards kids, BK toys, walmart and Toys R Us are stacked to the ceiling with transformers stuff aimed at lil&#8217; Johnny whose 9. TF 1 was a kids movie&#8230;this is not and i am surprised it got away with being called one. </p>
<p>4. The plot&#8230;i forgive it, despite how little to no sense it makes. It&#8217;s supposed to be a mind numbing popcorn action flick. It had the potential to be so much more though. </p>
<p>The moments i loved in this film though were the ones with Prime, Bumblebee, Megaton, Starscream, seeing the Army guys again, some of the comedy between Shia and Miss Fox&#8230;those were genuine and they left me not feeling cheated out of the movie i wanted to see. </p>
<p>BOTTOM LINE </p>
<p>Bay has always been a kid at heart, but it seems with TF 2 he&#8217;s now in that asshole state of puberty that everyone hates, the 13-16 year old douchebags that society has wanted to destroy for eons. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s clearly evident too when you&#8217;re in the theater and everyone you see around you laughing at the parts where anyone over 20 shakes their head in shame are just that&#8230;13-16 year old douchebags who wont shut up throughout the entire movie going on about how hot Megan Fox is. </p>
<p>TF 2 is truly marketed towards them, not to adults, not to kids, but to the 13-16 range. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth seeing for those few moments of Prime kicking ass&#8230;but if you wanna sneak into the theater lets just say i wont alert security. </p>
<p>Pierce &#8216;The Punk&#8217; Derks</p>
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		<title>By: zackmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>zackmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was trying to figure out if when someone mentioned Skids and Mudflap as being the Jar Jar Binks of Transformers 2, if that meant for comedy relief or potentially offending black Americans.

I was glad that I took my teen geeks to see the movie but if it had just been I could have waited for the DVD.

I could have done without the horny dog scene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was trying to figure out if when someone mentioned Skids and Mudflap as being the Jar Jar Binks of Transformers 2, if that meant for comedy relief or potentially offending black Americans.</p>
<p>I was glad that I took my teen geeks to see the movie but if it had just been I could have waited for the DVD.</p>
<p>I could have done without the horny dog scene.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Torres</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew Torres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Mudflap and Skids would be horrible but they were kind of funny.</description>
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		<title>By: Clark Pulliam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark Pulliam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awesome review/roundtable
i fairly enjoyed the movie
also I&#039;m a big Linkin Park fan but i agree 
Stan Bush deserves to be in the movie too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awesome review/roundtable<br />
i fairly enjoyed the movie<br />
also I&#8217;m a big Linkin Park fan but i agree<br />
Stan Bush deserves to be in the movie too</p>
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